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| Erstellt am 03.02.2009 - 14:10
ich hätte mal eine Frage bzgl. die Geschichte um den Begründer unseres Stieles Hung Hei Guan bzw. um sein Ableben.
Die Geschichte was mir bissher bekannt war (kurz und knapp)
- Bak Mai verrät die Mönche
- viele Mönche werden in dem Tempel getötet
- Tempel wird abgebrannt.
- Einige können fliehen (auch Hung Hei Guan) und wollen Rache.
- Dabei schafft Hung Hei Guan durch sein neu entwickeltes System Bak Mai zu besiegen.
Also Hung Hei Guan tötet Bak Mei.
jetzt habe ich was gaaanz anderes gelesen, und das auch in einem Hung Kuen Forum, von Hung Kuen Leute, und zwar:
"There was ten shaolin hero's or kung fu brothers Hung hei kwun,Fong sai yuk,fong mei yuk, Fong hou yuk,Wu wai kong,Tung tsin gen,Chung mai luk,Li wai guk,tse ah fuk and Luk ah choi.
Now these ten after the burning of shaolin wanted to kill bak mei because they saw him as the traitor against shaolin,also they were for fan ching fook ming as they all became rebels against the government.
Even though they were few in numbers they split up to recruit anti ching people but still they were out numbered.
Well from history we know that they never overthrew the government and the ming never came back to power.
They also knew that killing Bak mei would lead to their own deaths as they were outnumbered so out of the ten one was told not to follow them for revenge but to teach and spread the art of hung to the world,and that was given to Luk ah choi to do as he was the youngest of them all and one of the smartest.Thats why we see Luk ah choi as the Jo-si of hung as he was the first to spread it on,even though Hung hei kwun developed the style he never had chance to pass it on.
Ok now back to Bak mei he would never have singlehanded killed hung hei kwun and the rest of the hero's he always had more people with him
Fung dou tak (his kung fu brother) Ko kam chun,general Dyn kwan and his right-hand man Yeung sum and a shit load of soldiers.
Think about it they had the backing of the govenrment and the ching emperor you think that afterwards they would allow them all to live and lead normal lives DONT THINK SO they would have hunted them down and killed them no-matter what, Hung hei kwun was the leader they would never have let him go,he would never have been allowed to live too an old age and teach somewhere in canton.
Also they knew they would all die but thats what made them HERO'S. Very Happy
Now this is the basic story things inbetween would have could have been spiced up to make it more exciting but in the end the result would be the same UNLESS OF COURSE THE MING CAME BACK TO POWER AND EVERBODY LIVED HAPPY EVERAFTER HEHEHE BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Sad"
Also knapp zusammengefasst: Bak Mei und seine Leute töteten bis auf Luk Ah Choi alle die aus der Shaolin Tempel geflohen waren, darunter auch Hung Hei Guan.
Diese Darstellung scheint in diesem Forum zumindest mal nicht abwegig zu sein, also es gab keine lautstarke proteste (eigentlich gar keine Proteste) dass diese Version völlig daneben wäre.
es ist schon klar, dass es lange her ist, und so genau wird man das nie wissen. Das ist aber schon ein erheblicher unterschied, wer wen getötet hat...
no rotor --> no motor.
...damit hier nicht nur weisheiten stehen